Touchstone eBook. Join our mailing list and get updates . king, Henry VII, and one is. Arthur, named . curse from that murderous woman. “What did she say. KInG'S. CuRSE. PhILIPPA GREGORy. A TOuChSTOnE BOOK. Published by Simon & Schuster new york London Toronto ISBN (ebook) . This is the story of deposed royal Margaret Pole, and her unique view of King Margaret has to find her own way and hide her knowledge of an old curse on all.
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The King's Curse (The Plantagenet and Tudor Novels, #7) Libraries · Download eBook of Dying Breaths by M.J. Rose A Burnable Book by Bruce Holsinger A King's Ransom by Sharon Kay Penman The King's Curse by Philippa Gregory. The King's Curse by Philippa Gregory - From the #1 New York Times bestselling author behind the acclaimed Starz series The White Queen comes the story of. Aug 22, The King's Curse by Philippa Gregory (PDF). The 7th book in The Plantagenet and Tudor Novels (the author's reading order suggestion).
There's no evidence that she did. It most likely didn't. Anne Boleyn is accused of being a Lutheran. She wasn't. George Boleyn is described as being "quite useless". Far from it. She didn't. Not forgetting, of course, "Sir Thomas and his wife Elizabeth, daughter of the old Duke of Norfolk — see their pretty daughter in a new light, as a step to wealth and position, and like a pair of cheerful bawds wash her and dress her and bejewel her and present her to the king as if she were a fat little pigeon ready for the pie".
In the words of the late Irene Rheinwald, scholar of the Tudor era and the Boleyns in particular; "horrifying thought. Regarding historical accuracy; take for example the changing of the children's ages.
It's a small point and doesn't have that great an impact on the story. It would be nice if PG explained why she changed it, but it's forgivable. One of my favourite historical novels changed the age of one of its characters so he would be closer in age to his brother, whereas historically they were ten years apart in age - and the author acknowledged it and made it work so well in the story that I almost couldn't imagine it any other way now.
So, to clarify - it's not that I'm some stuffy old stickler for complete accuracy. I can overlook small changes, or big changes if they work well within the story and are acknowledged. What's jarring is big changes that are not explained and do not work well - things that would be so out of character for the real historical figure that they're just unbelievable, or changes that are silly or implausible, or worse a disservice to the real person.
Because then it affects my suspension of disbelief and I can't get on board with it. Changing historical facts in a historical novel is another balance thing. It's about how far you can push it, how you can integrate it seamlessly, how you can use it to improve the story, without getting people and events so far removed from themselves that they're unrecognisable, maintaining a level of staying true to the people and the history.
The allure of historical fiction is the spice that it's a true story.
What's the point of a historical setting if you're going to change it to the point of not staying true to the people and history? You might as well set it in a completely imaginary, fantasy world. So did Henry IV.
So did William the Conqueror. It was at least as valid as blind hereditary right, where you could end up with a beloved saint or a mad tyrant on pure luck. And what the main character tells us, throughout, is that when the House of York does something, it's good, but when the Tudors or Boleyns do it, it's bad.
And this is far from the first time Gregory has dealt with her characters by dividing them up into passive saints and ambitious no-good graspers, The Other Boleyn Girl being notable for it. Worst of all is the outright slut-shaming of Anne Boleyn that goes on in this book. And Philippa Gregory calls herself a feminist author?!
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Calling a girl a slut warns her that there's a line: she can be sexual but not too sexual. After all, I didn't become so bored with it that I abandoned it, like The White Princess, and the narrator wasn't irritatingly whiny like The Kingmaker's Daughter, so it seemed like it deserved a higher rating than those books.
But totting up the litany of issues with The King's Curse has changed my mind. Technical errors, tedious repetition, simplistic style, anachronistic voice - this is poor writing indeed - but they pale in comparison to the book's major problems; seriously questionable accuracy, talking down to readers, taking all the heart and soul out of the story by the author's inability to bring key events to life and habitual summarising, and the sheer lack of understanding on the part of the author about the era she's writing about.
Try not to be afraid. I have nothing to fear.
I know that I am safe with you. He does not want to remind me that perhaps I do still have something to fear. Perhaps even his lowly estate is not humble enough to keep me safe. My brother, my only brother, is dead!
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Introduction Lady-in-waiting Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, has spent her entire life attempting to deny her own royal blood and Plantagenet name while in service of the Tudor court. England is under a Tudor king.
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Henry VII, has two sons with Elizabeth of York, which should have secured his line, yet his court is still filled with fear and suspicion. Plantagenet is a dangerous name to carry and the heiress Margaret Pole, cousin to Elizabeth of York known as the White Princess and daughter of George, Duke of Clarence, is married off to a steady and kind Lancaster supporter—Sir Richard Pole. Henry executes him on Tower Hill, leaving Margaret to face a lifetime of uncertainty. Caught between the old world and the new, Margaret has to find her own way as she carries the knowledge of an old curse on the house of Tudor.
How do Lady Margaret, her characteristics, and her goals change over the course of her life at and away from court?
What is the actual curse? Do you believe that the curse that Elizabeth of York and her mother spoke against the Tudors comes to fruition? How does this affect her familial loyalty and influence her actions? What does it mean to Margaret to bear the name Plantagenet? What does the White Rose mean to her?
As a child, how was he different from his brother Arthur, Prince of Wales? What are his primary characteristics as a young king, and then as an aging monarch? How does the pressure to produce a male heir define the role of royal mothers? Lady Margaret Pole is a unique figure in the Tudor court: when her title is restored to her, she becomes one of the wealthiest individuals in England in her own right.
In what ways does Margaret use her position and influence that was unusual for a woman of this time? Why or why not?
How does each handle the Sweat and other diseases among their subjects?
How is each affected by the death of Katherine of Aragon? The wheel of fortune, or rota fortunae, is a popular notion in medieval philosophy that refers to the unpredictability of fate: the goddess Fortuna spins the wheel at random, changing the positions of those on the wheel.
Keeping this in mind, discuss the many great fortunes and misfortunes that befall Margaret and her family, and England as a whole, throughout the novel. What is the driving force behind these quick changes of fortune? Life: at almost any cost.
I have never prepared myself for death, not even going into childbed, and I would never put my head down on the block. How does this guide the decisions she makes for herself and her children? How do you think Margaret reconciles her disagreement with the king over religious issues, but outward loyalty to the throne? Enhance Your Book Club 1.
Follow Philippa Gregory on Facebook, www. I was aware of Margaret as the daughter of George, Duke of Clarence, as one of the children of the three brothers of York: Edward, George, and Richard. But she really came to my attention when I was writing The White Princess and I understood her intimacy and shared interests with Elizabeth of York, her cousin. She is a marvelous character to use as a narrator since she is intimate with Henry from his earliest years, a close friend of his mother, and then the friend and constant companion of his first wife.
She sees him as only a member of his family could see him grow and mature, and she is uniquely placed to watch his deterioration.
What were some of the challenges of using a lesser-known historical figure as a narrator at the center of a novel compared to one that has been written about extensively, such as Anne Boleyn or Henry VIII himself? The disadvantage of course is that there are gaps in the historical record and gaps in the speculation which historians bring to well-worked topics. Even the evidence for her treason—the badge of the white rose—was produced by Thomas Cromwell but there is no proof that it was hers.
As I looked at her life I began to think that she must have supported the Pilgrimage of Grace, and the attempts to secure the safety of Mary Tudor—but this was a conspiracy and the secrets are still hidden. What kind of research did you do for this book? I read! I visited some of the places, even driving around her home at the village of Stourton.
But the main research for all these Plantagenet and Tudor books is the extensive reading of primary but mostly secondary sources. Margaret holds a strong opinion for her entire life that the Plantagenets were the true royal family of England.
Do you agree with her? Is there any evidence of a curse on the house of Tudor, spoken by Elizabeth of York and her mother, or by any other?I started it, thinking that it would be a relatively simple telling of the tragic story of Margaret Pole — daughter of George Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville.
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The London sequences I traced out walking around London with a valuable 18th century map as my A to Z, seeing where Meridon might live and how she would ride in the park. Despite this growing focus on intellectual curiosity, there remains a strong loyalty to the Catholic Church and belief in magic, mysticism and superstition is rife.
The Wiltshire sequences are set in a well-loved house near Warminster where I used to stay as a child, and the return to Wideacre took me back to my beloved Sussex. It was at least as valid as blind hereditary right, where you could end up with a beloved saint or a mad tyrant on pure luck. Price may vary by retailer. Regarding historical accuracy; take for example the changing of the children's ages.
It was extraordinary to use the material that I had researched for a novel and write it as a "straight" history.
I started it, thinking that it would be a relatively simple telling of the tragic story of Margaret Pole — daughter of George Duke of Clarence and Isabel Neville.
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